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	<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ain Tohvri</title>
		<link>http://tekkie.flashbit.net/web-20/testing-typeroom#comment-163</link>
		<dc:creator>Ain Tohvri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 11:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, obviously I'm not the one talking crap here. 

Your cssfly failed in the very basics. It failed to render JavaScript and proper font for parts of the document not even going into the user interface that has no WYSIWYG in its traditional meaning. It's not usable by people who don't know (X)HTML/CSS which is the essence of content management or Typeroom in that matter.

To be honest, it doesn't stand a comparison with &lt;a href="http://www.typeroom.com/" title="Edit your own website. Instantly." rel="nofollow"&gt;Typeroom&lt;/a&gt;, esp. in the light of &lt;a href="http://www.typeroom.com/blog/?p=14" title="TypeRoom Lite: The Big Update" rel="nofollow"&gt;latest Typeroom developments&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, obviously I&#8217;m not the one talking crap here. </p>
<p>Your cssfly failed in the very basics. It failed to render JavaScript and proper font for parts of the document not even going into the user interface that has no WYSIWYG in its traditional meaning. It&#8217;s not usable by people who don&#8217;t know (X)HTML/CSS which is the essence of content management or Typeroom in that matter.</p>
<p>To be honest, it doesn&#8217;t stand a comparison with <a href="http://www.typeroom.com/" title="Edit your own website. Instantly." rel="nofollow">Typeroom</a>, esp. in the light of <a href="http://www.typeroom.com/blog/?p=14" title="TypeRoom Lite: The Big Update" rel="nofollow">latest Typeroom developments</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Shafiur</title>
		<link>http://tekkie.flashbit.net/web-20/testing-typeroom#comment-162</link>
		<dc:creator>Shafiur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 15:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cut the crap mate. This is the one to use here

http://cssfly.net/

What you code is what you get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cut the crap mate. This is the one to use here</p>
<p><a href="http://cssfly.net/" rel="nofollow">http://cssfly.net/</a></p>
<p>What you code is what you get.</p>
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		<title>By: Ain Tohvri</title>
		<link>http://tekkie.flashbit.net/web-20/testing-typeroom#comment-151</link>
		<dc:creator>Ain Tohvri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 10:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is in the stage of Beta. It should be rather easy to understand what it means and what are the risks of using any such product. 

The product was tested as one can tell off the &lt;a href="http://tekkie.flashbit.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/picture-5.png" rel="lightbox" title="Typeroom screenshot" rel="nofollow"&gt;screenshot&lt;/a&gt; of the particular post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is in the stage of Beta. It should be rather easy to understand what it means and what are the risks of using any such product. </p>
<p>The product was tested as one can tell off the <a href="http://tekkie.flashbit.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/picture-5.png" rel="lightbox" title="Typeroom screenshot" rel="nofollow">screenshot</a> of the particular post.</p>
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		<title>By: shafiur</title>
		<link>http://tekkie.flashbit.net/web-20/testing-typeroom#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator>shafiur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 18:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bog off Ain - you put a post up about these guys without testing the damn thing. That is what used to be called laziness. 

Reilly Sweetland - you can bog off too mate. You didn't have to engage someone to sort out the mess. Put a health warning on your product - "Warning. May corrupt code and cost you more money in addition to our cut."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bog off Ain - you put a post up about these guys without testing the damn thing. That is what used to be called laziness. </p>
<p>Reilly Sweetland - you can bog off too mate. You didn&#8217;t have to engage someone to sort out the mess. Put a health warning on your product - &#8220;Warning. May corrupt code and cost you more money in addition to our cut.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Reilly Sweetland</title>
		<link>http://tekkie.flashbit.net/web-20/testing-typeroom#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>Reilly Sweetland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 00:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting point, Ain. We have considered a reseller arrangement and will definitely give this some thought when that time comes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting point, Ain. We have considered a reseller arrangement and will definitely give this some thought when that time comes.</p>
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		<title>By: Ain Tohvri</title>
		<link>http://tekkie.flashbit.net/web-20/testing-typeroom#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator>Ain Tohvri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Reilly – task is extremely complex. Any such initiative should be appreciated and I hope &lt;a href="http://www.typeroom.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Typeroom&lt;/a&gt; eventually releases a good stable product. 

And also, regarding marketing, I think you guys should introduce reseller packages, say 10 accounts/sites for a fixed monthly payment introducing a bit of the discount on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Reilly – task is extremely complex. Any such initiative should be appreciated and I hope <a href="http://www.typeroom.com/" rel="nofollow">Typeroom</a> eventually releases a good stable product. </p>
<p>And also, regarding marketing, I think you guys should introduce reseller packages, say 10 accounts/sites for a fixed monthly payment introducing a bit of the discount on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Reilly Sweetland</title>
		<link>http://tekkie.flashbit.net/web-20/testing-typeroom#comment-142</link>
		<dc:creator>Reilly Sweetland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shafiur - I know you &lt;a href="http://tekkie.flashbit.net/web-20/edit-your-site-with-typeroom" rel="nofollow"&gt;mentioned&lt;/a&gt;  your friends had a competitive product to TypeRoom Lite at one point, but does this really warrant these slanderous comments on system? The facts on our progress are pretty simple: We are still testing; helpful people like Ain are providing valuable insight and we are actively iterating on the bugs found. Release early, release often. 

@Ain. I agree -- there will indeed always be a place for the webmaster. Stay tuned for further updates as we work out the kinks in the system. We have a major release coming up with one of the major points being cleanliness of source code. Building an HTML editor that works with the huge variables in existing code is not a small task.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shafiur - I know you <a href="http://tekkie.flashbit.net/web-20/edit-your-site-with-typeroom" rel="nofollow">mentioned</a>  your friends had a competitive product to TypeRoom Lite at one point, but does this really warrant these slanderous comments on system? The facts on our progress are pretty simple: We are still testing; helpful people like Ain are providing valuable insight and we are actively iterating on the bugs found. Release early, release often. </p>
<p>@Ain. I agree &#8212; there will indeed always be a place for the webmaster. Stay tuned for further updates as we work out the kinks in the system. We have a major release coming up with one of the major points being cleanliness of source code. Building an HTML editor that works with the huge variables in existing code is not a small task.</p>
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		<title>By: shafiur</title>
		<link>http://tekkie.flashbit.net/web-20/testing-typeroom#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator>shafiur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 08:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah you are right. I don't want to hack my web site to bits with this typeroom. I need a fit for purpose application not a blunt axe which this typeroom surely is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah you are right. I don&#8217;t want to hack my web site to bits with this typeroom. I need a fit for purpose application not a blunt axe which this typeroom surely is.</p>
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		<title>By: Ain Tohvri</title>
		<link>http://tekkie.flashbit.net/web-20/testing-typeroom#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator>Ain Tohvri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 07:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re Reilly: I'm glad you found the post useful.

Re Shafiur: Typeroom is still in the Beta but I fully understand your disappointment.

There is a modern controversy to it all. Even today you can go shopping and pick an axe of industrially manufactured selection of choices. And you can also get an axe made by Scandinavian blacksmiths by hand. Price-wise there's not much of a difference unless you want an utter cheapie. 
I believe that's the case with web mastering too. There will always be a niche for websmiths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Reilly: I&#8217;m glad you found the post useful.</p>
<p>Re Shafiur: Typeroom is still in the Beta but I fully understand your disappointment.</p>
<p>There is a modern controversy to it all. Even today you can go shopping and pick an axe of industrially manufactured selection of choices. And you can also get an axe made by Scandinavian blacksmiths by hand. Price-wise there&#8217;s not much of a difference unless you want an utter cheapie.<br />
I believe that&#8217;s the case with web mastering too. There will always be a niche for websmiths.</p>
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		<title>By: shafiur</title>
		<link>http://tekkie.flashbit.net/web-20/testing-typeroom#comment-133</link>
		<dc:creator>shafiur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 07:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a damning indictment of Typeroom as a content management system. I could have understood if it was a beta. It is not. Moreover Typeroom charges for the save to server option. Why would you want to use Typeroom which could potentially break your web site and then pay for that privilege too? 

I would rather pay a retainer to a web developer to make future edits than use Typeroom and introduce crap code to my site. In the words of Alan Sugar: Ain, you are hired!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a damning indictment of Typeroom as a content management system. I could have understood if it was a beta. It is not. Moreover Typeroom charges for the save to server option. Why would you want to use Typeroom which could potentially break your web site and then pay for that privilege too? </p>
<p>I would rather pay a retainer to a web developer to make future edits than use Typeroom and introduce crap code to my site. In the words of Alan Sugar: Ain, you are hired!</p>
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