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		<title>By: The Urdu Internet and Making it Pretty &#187; Blog Archive &#171; Talk</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Urdu Internet and Making it Pretty &#187; Blog Archive &#171; Talk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ain Tohvri</title>
		<link>http://tekkie.flashbit.net/browsers/webkit-is-leading-the-run-for-css3#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>Ain Tohvri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. Microsoft added EOT and Netscape added TrueDoc. Both actually quite useless because of the 'special tool'. One could consider the above-mentioned True Font Family or &lt;a href="http://tekkie.flashbit.net/category/flash" rel="nofollow"&gt;Flash&lt;/a&gt; to do the job as well.

And betting on IE dominance means losing roughly a quarter of visitors as of Nov 2007 the estimated share of IE is 77.35% and considering the niche of the particular site, the stats may tremendously vary: &lt;a href="http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=0" rel="nofollow"&gt;Browser Market Share for November, 2007&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. Microsoft added EOT and Netscape added TrueDoc. Both actually quite useless because of the &#8217;special tool&#8217;. One could consider the above-mentioned True Font Family or <a href="http://tekkie.flashbit.net/category/flash">Flash</a> to do the job as well.</p>
<p>And betting on IE dominance means losing roughly a quarter of visitors as of Nov 2007 the estimated share of IE is 77.35% and considering the niche of the particular site, the stats may tremendously vary: <a href="http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=0">Browser Market Share for November, 2007</a></p>
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		<title>By: Martin Griffiths</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Griffiths</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is probably going to shock you but, Win IE has supported embedded fonts since IE4!!!! I've often used this completely undocumented feature simply because IE is such a dominant browser and because its done in CSS you can specify alternatives.

Unfortunately the support only covers EOT (embedded opentype fonts) and you need a special tool to create the files.

Go &lt;a href="http://www.microsoft.com/typography/web/embedding/default.aspx" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; for more info....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is probably going to shock you but, Win IE has supported embedded fonts since IE4!!!! I&#8217;ve often used this completely undocumented feature simply because IE is such a dominant browser and because its done in CSS you can specify alternatives.</p>
<p>Unfortunately the support only covers EOT (embedded opentype fonts) and you need a special tool to create the files.</p>
<p>Go <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/typography/web/embedding/default.aspx">here</a> for more info&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: True Font Family</title>
		<link>http://tekkie.flashbit.net/browsers/webkit-is-leading-the-run-for-css3#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>True Font Family</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree and disagree with you. But we can both agree that browsers should natively support TrueType web fonts. :-)

Search Engine Optimization:

The HTML source is clean and free from any images or Flash movies. When the JavaScript is fired elements are replaced using DHTML. Search engines do not do this. They just see the HTML. Check the google guidelines. They tell to turn off JavaScript to see how they index your site.

Server load:

Flash is the best solution while it reuses the Flash movie for any headline and does not perform any server side rendering. 

True Font Family can make caches of the images so they are only created once and are stored on the server. Furthermore it tells clients to cache the images so most if not all browsers will only get eache image once.

Traffic load:

The best solution would be if browsers supported web fonts. And both techniques increase the bandwidth used for a page. With increasing connections and bandwidth this is somewhat an issue. But until now these techniques allow you more freedom using fonts on the Internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree and disagree with you. But we can both agree that browsers should natively support TrueType web fonts. <img src='http://tekkie.flashbit.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Search Engine Optimization:</p>
<p>The HTML source is clean and free from any images or Flash movies. When the JavaScript is fired elements are replaced using DHTML. Search engines do not do this. They just see the HTML. Check the google guidelines. They tell to turn off JavaScript to see how they index your site.</p>
<p>Server load:</p>
<p>Flash is the best solution while it reuses the Flash movie for any headline and does not perform any server side rendering. </p>
<p>True Font Family can make caches of the images so they are only created once and are stored on the server. Furthermore it tells clients to cache the images so most if not all browsers will only get eache image once.</p>
<p>Traffic load:</p>
<p>The best solution would be if browsers supported web fonts. And both techniques increase the bandwidth used for a page. With increasing connections and bandwidth this is somewhat an issue. But until now these techniques allow you more freedom using fonts on the Internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Ain Tohvri</title>
		<link>http://tekkie.flashbit.net/browsers/webkit-is-leading-the-run-for-css3#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Ain Tohvri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 15:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True Font Family is a neat solution. Pretty similar to &lt;a href="http://tekkie.flashbit.net/flash/embedding-fonts-in-flash-cs3" title="Embedding fonts in Flash CS3" rel="nofollow"&gt;Flash font embedding&lt;/a&gt; technique that is used for headlines on various sites.

BUT there are few drawbacks that you don't have with &lt;a href="http://tekkie.flashbit.net/tag/css" rel="nofollow"&gt;Cascading Style Sheets&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;h3&gt;Search Engine Optimization.&lt;/h3&gt;
As the text is provided in embedded movie or in image we lose the advantage on indexing. Googlebot is not going to consider an image or &lt;a href="http://tekkie.flashbit.net/category/flash" rel="nofollow"&gt;Flash&lt;/a&gt; movie in a way it does with h1-h6 tags. Readability and structuring matters.
&lt;h3&gt;Server load.&lt;/h3&gt;
On any high-traffic site live gdlib rendering would have quite an impact on performance. In these terms &lt;a href="http://tekkie.flashbit.net/category/flash" rel="nofollow"&gt;Flash&lt;/a&gt; would be a better choice.
&lt;h3&gt;Traffic load.&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;a href="http://tekkie.flashbit.net/tag/css" rel="nofollow"&gt;CSS&lt;/a&gt; is a lightweight method to improve visual detail and was introduced to get spacer images, headline images and all of that off the web. &lt;a href="http://tekkie.flashbit.net/css/benefits-of-tableless-design" title="Benefits of tableless design" rel="nofollow"&gt;These are the benefits&lt;/a&gt;. The above mentioned PHP and &lt;a href="http://tekkie.flashbit.net/category/flash" rel="nofollow"&gt;Flash&lt;/a&gt; methods will both increase the megabytes on the line significantly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True Font Family is a neat solution. Pretty similar to <a href="http://tekkie.flashbit.net/flash/embedding-fonts-in-flash-cs3" title="Embedding fonts in Flash CS3">Flash font embedding</a> technique that is used for headlines on various sites.</p>
<p>BUT there are few drawbacks that you don&#8217;t have with <a href="http://tekkie.flashbit.net/tag/css">Cascading Style Sheets</a>:</p>
<h3>Search Engine Optimization.</h3>
<p>As the text is provided in embedded movie or in image we lose the advantage on indexing. Googlebot is not going to consider an image or <a href="http://tekkie.flashbit.net/category/flash">Flash</a> movie in a way it does with h1-h6 tags. Readability and structuring matters.</p>
<h3>Server load.</h3>
<p>On any high-traffic site live gdlib rendering would have quite an impact on performance. In these terms <a href="http://tekkie.flashbit.net/category/flash">Flash</a> would be a better choice.</p>
<h3>Traffic load.</h3>
<p><a href="http://tekkie.flashbit.net/tag/css">CSS</a> is a lightweight method to improve visual detail and was introduced to get spacer images, headline images and all of that off the web. <a href="http://tekkie.flashbit.net/css/benefits-of-tableless-design" title="Benefits of tableless design">These are the benefits</a>. The above mentioned PHP and <a href="http://tekkie.flashbit.net/category/flash">Flash</a> methods will both increase the megabytes on the line significantly.</p>
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		<title>By: True Font Family</title>
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		<dc:creator>True Font Family</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can use TrueType web fonts through @font-face already with any major browser (IE/Firefox/Netscape/Mozilla/Opera/Safari) using True Font Family.

Check out the example from this article in your own browser &lt;a href="http://www.truefontfamily.com/examples/css3_font_sample.html" title="" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;

Feel free to check out the HTML source code. The extra line of JavaScript is needed to enable @font-face which is disabled by default. This will prevent the script from checking for imported fonts and makes it slightly faster.

For more information: http://www.truefontfamily.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can use TrueType web fonts through @font-face already with any major browser (IE/Firefox/Netscape/Mozilla/Opera/Safari) using True Font Family.</p>
<p>Check out the example from this article in your own browser <a href="http://www.truefontfamily.com/examples/css3_font_sample.html" title="">here</a></p>
<p>Feel free to check out the HTML source code. The extra line of JavaScript is needed to enable @font-face which is disabled by default. This will prevent the script from checking for imported fonts and makes it slightly faster.</p>
<p>For more information: <a href="http://www.truefontfamily.com/">http://www.truefontfamily.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ain Tohvri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ain Tohvri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 14:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just for the record: &lt;a href="http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/3.0a8/releasenotes/" title="Gran Paradiso Alpha 8" rel="nofollow"&gt;Alpha 8&lt;/a&gt; of Firefox 3 doesn't support Web Fonts either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for the record: <a href="http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/3.0a8/releasenotes/" title="Gran Paradiso Alpha 8">Alpha 8</a> of Firefox 3 doesn&#8217;t support Web Fonts either.</p>
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		<title>By: Sava</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now this is really useful. I guess it's so long logos :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now this is really useful. I guess it&#8217;s so long logos <img src='http://tekkie.flashbit.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Ain Tohvri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ain Tohvri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it's definitely a good step and hopefully &lt;a href="http://tekkie.flashbit.net/tag/webkit" rel="nofollow"&gt;WebKit&lt;/a&gt;'s initiative will be sufficient for W3C to get it finalized. 

Mozilla's latest &lt;a href="http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2007/08/03/gran-paradiso-alpha-7-available-for-download/" title="An early developer milestone for Firefox 3" rel="nofollow"&gt;Gran Paradiso Alpha 7&lt;/a&gt; doesn't support Web Fonts but I do hope the competition will trigger them to go for it. 
&lt;a href="http://tekkie.flashbit.net/tag/ie" rel="nofollow"&gt;Internet Explorer&lt;/a&gt; on the other hand will probably lag behind as it usually does. My hope is that Microsoft's lead on the browser market will continue to shrink from what it is significantly.

Web Fonts will raise a lot of copyright issues but so does everything else, e.g. pirated images.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it&#8217;s definitely a good step and hopefully <a href="http://tekkie.flashbit.net/tag/webkit">WebKit</a>&#8217;s initiative will be sufficient for W3C to get it finalized. </p>
<p>Mozilla&#8217;s latest <a href="http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2007/08/03/gran-paradiso-alpha-7-available-for-download/" title="An early developer milestone for Firefox 3">Gran Paradiso Alpha 7</a> doesn&#8217;t support Web Fonts but I do hope the competition will trigger them to go for it.<br />
<a href="http://tekkie.flashbit.net/tag/ie">Internet Explorer</a> on the other hand will probably lag behind as it usually does. My hope is that Microsoft&#8217;s lead on the browser market will continue to shrink from what it is significantly.</p>
<p>Web Fonts will raise a lot of copyright issues but so does everything else, e.g. pirated images.</p>
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		<title>By: David Hopkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Hopkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a good step forward. I have been waiting for such advances for a while. Hopefully Mozilla will also make more of a headway for provisionary CSS3 rules. Unfortunatly with IE7 not even up to speed with CSS 2.1 it will probably be a while before we can really use any of this stuff.

I wonder if this will cause any issues with font copyright. It would be easy for anyone to access commercial fonts if they are defined in the CSS. One solution would be to use PHP or another server-side language to block direct access to the file.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good step forward. I have been waiting for such advances for a while. Hopefully Mozilla will also make more of a headway for provisionary CSS3 rules. Unfortunatly with IE7 not even up to speed with CSS 2.1 it will probably be a while before we can really use any of this stuff.</p>
<p>I wonder if this will cause any issues with font copyright. It would be easy for anyone to access commercial fonts if they are defined in the CSS. One solution would be to use PHP or another server-side language to block direct access to the file.</p>
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